The Zen Record

The wind and the flag

Told in
Platform Sutra of the Sixth Patriarch (the autobiographical section (Zongbao edition))The Gateless Gate (case 29)
People
Huineng (the sixth ancestor)
Place
Faxing monastery, Guangzhou
Used as
KoanFounding story
Standing
Traditional: told by the tradition, not independently attested

After years in hiding, Huineng came to Faxing monastery in Guangzhou, where the master Yinzong was lecturing on the Nirvana Sutra. A flag was moving in the wind. One monk said the wind was moving. Another said the flag was moving. They went back and forth.

Huineng stepped forward and said: it is not the wind moving, and not the flag moving; it is your minds that are moving. The assembly was startled. Yinzong asked who he was, learned he was Hongren’s heir, and had his head shaved there.

Retold for this site from Platform Sutra of the Sixth Patriarch, the autobiographical section (Zongbao edition).

In the text

時有風吹幡動。一僧曰風動。一僧曰幡動。議論不已。惠能進曰。不是風動。不是幡動。仁者心動。

At that time the wind was blowing and the flag moved. One monk said: the wind moves. Another said: the flag moves. They argued without end. Huineng came forward and said: it is not the wind that moves, not the flag that moves; it is your minds, gentlemen, that move.

Platform Sutra, Zongbao edition (Taishō T.2008), T48n2008_p0349c10. Translation for this site.Public domain

What the tradition does with it

  • mind and world
  • the founding of the southern school

Sources

  • Zongbao 宗寶 (ed.), Platform Sutra, Zongbao edition 六祖大師法寶壇經 (1291), Taishō T.2008
  • Wumen Huikai 無門慧開; compiled by Zongshao 宗紹, Wumen guan 無門關 (Gateless Gate) (1228), Taishō T.2005

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